Utah's Republic

Yes, your argument that using his technique makes you an extreme leftist is a little shaky.

http://washingtonindependent.com/54554/conservatives-find-town-hall-strategy-in-leftist-text

Since the NEA has so boldly encouraged their leaders at every level to embrace such a radical leftist philosophy, it is only reasonable for conservatives to recognize them as the supporters of secular socialism that they are. When they state their common goal of improving public education, they plainly mean they want to improve the indoctrination of all children in secular socialist ideals. When the NEA recommends a book which openly admires the rebellion of Lucifer, we must draw our battle lines and fight such an enemy.

Saul's book is probably a must read. I expect it's a primmer on tactics used widely to force change. In chess you spend half your time developing your plan and the other half trying to figure out what your opponent is doing. It appears the NEA is giving us a look at their play book.

It appears to me that many of the solid, dedicated educators are in a catch-22. Many of their employment benefits are tied to a union that does not reflect their values. I suspect morale and polarization will be growing issues. Some cherished beliefs are being challenged on both sides and there are two legitimate sides to every issue. Rational rhetoric and a firm resolve would probably serve us well.

Huh?

Oak– read what they said– I provided an additional reference. All grassroots organizations, particularly the tea party, read this guy. See the quote:

“Alinsky’s writings have been called the “mother’s milk of the left,” however in an ironic homage, the conservative right has borrowed a page or two from the Alinsky playbook. Tea Party leader and self-described “conservative radical” Michael Patrick Leahy, for example, has authored a book based on Alinsky’s teachings: “Rules for Conservative Radicals.”

We hope that ARs and local leaders of all political stripes will discern from Alinsky’s books grassroots organizing strategies that will best help us bring our members together around the common goal of improving public education.”

And nice Peter what a giant leap you made to reach that conclusion. It is no wonder the “death panel” myth took off despite being debunkable with ANY thinking or reading

Arthor, what the NEA has posted is an attempt to justify their use of Alinsky's tactics which are based in evil principles. If you actually look up the Rules for Conservative Radicals on Amazon and read the reviews, you will see the person who wrote the book crossed out some of Alinsky's principles, modified others, and sought to bring them under the morals of Martin Luther King. It's not a mimic of Alinsky, it's using collaborative strategies with morals to work unitedly to turn the tide of left-wing socialism that is overtaking our country.

It might be interesting to read this book in its entirety rather than just one quote taken out of context. If you think about it though, the quote is kind of true. Lucifer did gain his own kingdom due to his rebellious acts. Of course, through an LDS prism, we just call that part of the plan.

and the conspiracies continue…

and continues and continues and continues…

Employment benefits are tied to the state, not the union. All state workers receive those state benefits, including the legislature, and they are not tied to the NEA.