Thank you for apologizing. I will clarify for the last time: Ayers and Goodlad are buddies. Henshaw has attended these same conferences for years as a top leader in Goodlad’s organization. Never said Vern was good buddies with Ayers. I said he’s been aware of the connection for at least 5 years that I can find. If I wrote that unclearly, I am sorry. I don’t wish to argue with you or continue feeding trolls. My purpose is to educate people. If you don’t believe it, you have that option.

When you come to the site and post under yet another name how I’m exactly right and we need to raise a militia right now and take back the federal government and our schools, no, I’m not going to allow that post on the site in an attempt to make it appear I’m in agreement with radical ideas (which I’m obviously not and have never espoused).

Walnuthorton, you’re right. I see now that your IP address is different than someone else that posts here and sounds exactly like you and posts as maple, walnut, birch, etc…

However, my question is still valid for you about questions my methods. How exactly would you wake people up to a dangerous agenda being fed into our schools?

Sorry Susie, I did find your comment. The site wouldn’t let me pull up the link to our comment for some reason. I thought you removed it. I apologize for saying so. Upon re-reading though, you actually say the superintendent was connected to Bill Ayers twice in the same paragraph. I still have a hard time believing you misplaced a modifier both times, but I guess it is possible. Readers will have to decide for themselves.

Oh, by the way, Susie, you didn’t misplace your modifier. You flat out said that the superintendent was buddies with Ayers because the superintendent attends conferences where Ayers is present and speaks. It seems your justifications were misplaced and now, so is your entire comment. I see you removed your comment so people can’t see for themselves. Oh well, nice try!

As I have said to Oak before (he forgets though), I do find the Goodlad–Ayers connection troubling. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean that ASD/BYU buys into the entire package deal or support Marxist socialism. For instance, one can borrow and quote scriptures from the Koran without being a Muslim. I do believe they (ASD) interpret Goodlad differently than what is claimed by you and Oak, and you are unwilling to give them the benefit of the doubt and accept their explanations.

If I could give some advice: make people aware, mindful, and watchful (which I am) of the activities of ASD. Even though Goodlad may very well be ASD’s darling, it doesn’t mean that teachers really have the time to read or implement Goodlad. As for college students reading Goodlad, well…I went to college and didn’t read half of what I was supposed to. That is true of many students. In fact most teachers I have talked to have a copy of Goodlad, but have never read it. They don’t have time. The ones who have read Goodlad did not see any socialist agenda and even then are too busy to incorporate Goodlad into their teaching. We are talking about ASD with some of the highest class sizes in the state, after all. To most teachers, the ASD motto is a district thing and school mottos are quite another. Teachers care a lot more about school mottos than district ones. Teachers worry more about treading water and maintaining classes, grading papers, or thinking about how the legislature is going to sabotage public education in the next legislative session. I visit various schools and am involved in my local schools and talk with various teachers. I’m just not seeing what you see at the school level, and I’m quite aware of your concerns.

Thanks for your suggestions and advice though and your looking after my well being.

Lewis, before you have a heart attack, I misplaced my modifier. Read it again with my real intent that John Goodlad is buddies with Bill Ayers, not Vern. I’m confident that Ayers and Goodlad have shared more than a meal or two. Sorry, I was in a hurry and didn’t double check before I sent it.

However, since you mention it, Vern Henshaw has known for at least 5 years that Bill Ayers is connected to Goodlad’s Agenda. They attend the same NNER Conferences while Vern has been on the Tripartite Executive Counsel for the NNER. Vern is certainly no innocent bystander. He has been an award winning leader of Goodlad’s. Also connected to Ayers for years is a Moral Dimensions speaker who ASD reveres as an expert on their website (before they scrubbed it clean recently). This speaker has his arms around Bill Ayers like they are best buddies. Hard not to notice Ayers wearing the Socialist/Communist red star right on the front of his T-shirt. Now THAT’s the kind of morals we should be feeding our children! Good thing he is an expert on what kind of knowledge teachers should be teaching in ASD!

By the way Lewis, isn’t there some other website you might find more interesting? You spend way too much time attacking us on here when we are only trying to educate. We don’t force you to read this site. You might feel more comfortable hanging out with people you have more in common with instead of raising your blood pressure by sitting around reading UR all day.

cea7of9, a minority party in Germany took over that country as well in the 1930’s. I’m not ignorant of the slow road to socialism that has infected our country. I’ve been fighting little things such as seat belt laws that have slowly eroded the personal choices of our citizens while other so-called conservatives have been sitting on the sidelines. What about the Patriot Act? Talk about an erosion of our liberties? I didn’t hear any so-called conservatives complaining about that.

The problem I have is that Oak Norton and his followers have an agenda to do a lot of their indoctrinating of their own. I watched the presentation where Susie Schnell got hung up on the slide that was complaining that our schools aren’t teaching morals, even though she previously said that a school’s job was not to teach morals, but the parents’ job. In other words, the schools need to teach the morals espoused by Oak Norton and those he has enculturated and nobody else. That is how I’m viewing the mixed message. What about a dishonest kid in school? School’s aren’t allowed to provide consequences to students who use vulgar language, cheat, steal, etc? I do think that some values need to be taught at school, since obviously some kids aren’t getting them at home.

I’m also bothered by the Texas standards which are endorsed by Oak Norton. In the history standards there are some outright lies and lots of ultra-conservative indoctrination. I was happy to see the liberal agenda thrown out of the Texas standards but saddened to see a radical conservative agenda added to the standards. I mean really…do students need to study Phylis Schlafly and the Eagle Forum? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but the Texas standards require kids to regard the war in Iraq as the War on Terror. Don’t get me started on the hero worship they have in Texas for disgraced Sen. McCarthy who accused his political enemies of being communists including Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower. Unbelievable!

We don’t need this kind of garbage in Utah.

Oak,

I don’t think you meant your comments for me. Did you? Because I don’t follow you.