Comments on: Self-Loathing Indoctrination 101 (via “anti-racist” workshops) https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/ A Constitutional Right Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Economic Terrorism In America III « Economic & Multicultural Terrorism https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2602 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 07:48:25 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2602 […] https://www.utahsrepublic.org/education/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/ […]

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By: Deila https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2435 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:31:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2435 More Government indoctrination of our youth over family values and teachings.

What about the story in the book, Night? It is about a white man, a white Jewish boy during the holocaust. I think the govt tried to exterminate that religious group.

Two of my kids attended high school where the kids segregated by interest, despite “Diversity Month.” This was in Orange County, CA. Maybe they need to address the fact that the white kids are now the minority in some of these schools. But, no, they won’t do that.

The next three kids, I have opted out, and home schooled. Teachers Unions are the biggest in the nation, hard to fight.

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By: NatalieH https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2433 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 22:01:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2433 I’ve found myself thinking about this a lot, weighing intent vs. results. Certainly no one on either side would say that racism–as defined by a pre-judgment of a person’s character or abilities based on skin color–is a good thing. However, what is particularly interesting to me is that the very concept of “white guilt” is a racist attitude. It is the idea that whites have to take responsibility for creating and fixing the problem because the minorities can’t or won’t. This unbalanced burden of responsibility is precisely what continues to exacerbate the differences. And social engineering, affirmative action, etc only serves to deepen the divide.

The question on the White Privilege doc is a prime example: “I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having coworkers on the job suspect that I got it because of race.” We would ALL have to assume the person got the job due to his/her own qualifications in the absence of affirmative action–and it is the very existence of affirmative action that creates the suspicion, NOT racism! If we REALLY believe that other races/religions/cultures are as good as our own or have the same potential, we would give them no special privileges. Then the real test of the effectiveness of a racial thought pattern, a religious moral code, or a cultural ideology would be appropriately where it should be: in the results of each person’s behavior.

It is important to note, too, that the THOUGHT PATTERNS (often running in racial groups), MORAL CODES (often linked with religious groups), or IDEOLOGIES (often linked with cultures)–are things that can and should be judged, measured, and critiqued. It does not mean we are judging, measuring, or critiquing the person. But having the confidence that any person–regardless of race, religion, or culture–has the power to overcome self-limiting thought patterns by making good choices is precisely the kind of non-racial attitude I want to have and that I want to teach my children.

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By: Jim Davis https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2431 Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:11:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2431 In reply to Anonymous.

Almost every “English” class I’ve taken in California and Utah (Junior High, High School and College) has been about social engineering us students. All but one English class focused on how racist white people are whilst advocating affirmative action type rhetoric. Now that I’m older (in my mid twenties) I am surprised that I escaped those classes mostly unscathed. I did not learn a darn thing about grammar, punctuation or writing styles. Most of my time was spent reading and writing about how minorities are oppressed and that social justice is necessary to bring about equality…

Seriously, as someone who has just left the public education system here in Utah I recommend people seek other alternatives to educating themselves and their children than what the current status quo is providing.

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By: Gerry https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2429 Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:18:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2429 One weapon of Socialism isto create a class warfare within the populace. Although they preach equality, they teach diversity. They teach oppression of the different and promote dislike through affirmative action and ‘racial’ quotas. They have convoluted the race definitions so badly that is is no longer recognizable.

Race is from DNA, not language or church affilialtion. There are five races in the human species. Not all Hispanics are brown. Those living in Spain are rather white from what i’ve experienced; and, Hispanic is definede as a group of the populace whose primary language is Spanish. And, so on with each of the more recent ‘racial’ designations, like Muslim. From the very first example that was used it is rather obvious the ‘instructors’ allowed into the classrooms are not adequately versed in the subject to give a proper and informative class on the matter.

If the parents have the time they should insist on sitting in on the presentation. Then talk to their children later about the things that were wrong with the presentation. They should also voice their observations to the School Board and if necessary, file complaints with the State about the socially disruptive type of instruction their School District is promoting.

The parents, being warned of the impending presentations, should ask the schools when the class will be given to their child. Then ask to allow the child to opt out or leave if they feel uncmfortable or threatened by the message the class presents.

Now for a tip for the kids; If they get asked the choice question about which one they would allow to sit down; “The first one that asked to.” Or,which would they sit with, “The first one that asked me to join them.” (Then watch the expression on the instructor’s face.) If nobody asked me to join them I’d go sit elsewhere.

The mention of the Vietnam era Race Relations classes. I had those and they tried the same tactic with a survey about the areas where there was racial imbalances in several activities such as employment, teachers etc. When I was done, the instructor thought it was great the minority had so many of the good jobs. I thought she was gonna’ die I said the minority was Anglo; I live in a 90% Hispanic community.

From that instruction I developed standard response tactics for these type situations; as well as the ones where a miniority person is in my face about what my ‘people’ did to opress his people. None are threatening or demeaning, I never suggest going there, but it can be done with effective preparation. Trust the kids to handle it with a little coaching and the knowledge that their parents support their position.

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By: Pam https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:50:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2424 In reply to Pookey43.

Pookey43, your story serves as an example of the difference between allowing this kind of “education” to take place in the home vs. having our educational system do it. I don’t think this is an isolated case — generally, until all this sudden focus on race and culture was stirred up after Obama was elected, I really hadn’t thought much about it. I find myself feeling resentful as opposed to accepting. I don’t feel guilty for being white. And I don’t want anyone else to feel guilty about his or her race or culture either. Sometimes I think this is a deliberate attempt to pit people against one another. Because that’s exactly what it is doing.

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By: Pookey43 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2423 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:41:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2423 My daughter took a class on Pacific Islanders at the U because she loves her Uncle and cousin who are Pacific Islanders. By the time the class was over she has a particular dislike of said people. The entire class was about how horrible caucasian people are and she was treated like white trash. So sad a teacher can also create the division and hatred that was never there before. Now her uncle and cousins are the exception to the how cool she has always felt for that race. So sad.

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By: EDB https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2422 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:15:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2422 Thanks Oak. I forwarded this so at least one parent at Judd Memorial knows about the “Oppression Class”m coming up in April.

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By: Getgungho https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2421 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:33:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2421 In reply to Kristie.

Amen! I grew up being taught that difference was good and God ment it to be that way so we could have variety in life. I have sevral relatives who are of different ethnic and racial backgrounds then that of my birth and we always thought that it was “cool” as kids. We also were taught that we had heritage as well and that is what makes our family so unique in and of itself. So when I was exposed to these types fo things as a youth I remember feeling shame for being white. I also was reminded by my parents that it was not true. Racism is a two way swinging door. My have had several opportunities to see this in my life when I have approached someone of a different race in conversation and I speak to them with repsect as I would anyone. But in return I get negative responses. So I see the Racist door swinging in both directions all the time. I don’t let it bother me simply becasue I choose not to take offence and love and love my brother or sister anyway. But the thing that is very frightening to me is that indoctrination programs like this do not just swing the door open they blow it off the hinges so that there is no choice.

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By: Getgungho https://www.utahsrepublic.org/self-loathing-indoctrination-101-via-anti-racist-workshops/comment-page-1/#comment-2420 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:51:00 +0000 https://www.utahsrepublic.org/?p=1222#comment-2420 In reply to Tim.

I agree this needs to be done and recording it would be priceless.

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