BYU Ed Dept Endorses Korihor Again

BYU’s Department of Education has published their Spring 2011 edition of McKay Today Magazine and contained in this small compilation is a tribute by former dean Robert Patterson to none other than John Goodlad. Susie Schnell sent me a link to it and even though it’s an article that has been seen on BYU’s website in the past, they chose to re-emphasize their complete and utter devotion to a man who is seeking the overthrow of all that BYU supposedly stands for.

First and foremost, lets be 100% clear that John Goodlad is an anti-Christ, and in LDS terminology, we would also call him a Korihor. He is an atheist, humanist, socialist, who espouses population control, constructivist math, implementing the gay agenda in the classroom, and having teachers introduce Marxist social justice in the classroom. Goodlad invited Bill Ayers, the godless Marxist terrorist turned educator to be the keynote speaker at his NNER conference last October. None of these philosophies are worthy of BYU’s mission or standards, neither does it correspond with direct teachings from the Book of Mormon which instruct us that both our secular teachers, and ecclesiastical leaders, should be individuals who walk in God’s paths or we should not trust them.

Mosiah 23:14 “And also trust no one to be your teacher nor your minister, except he be a man of God, walking in his ways and keeping his commandments.”

The BYU Education Department’s infatuation with Goodlad is completely independent of the LDS church. The church may own the school, but once teachers have tenure their ideology comes out without much fear of retribution in spite of the poison they may subtly distribute to students who believe their teachers are only espousing God’s truths and not the philosophies of men. They embrace Goodlad’s worldly philosophies because he is nationally prominent and has bestowed honors upon them and their college of education, specifically naming two individuals (Steve Baugh and John Rosenberg) as AED Scholars (Agenda for Education in a Democracy), and working with BYU for decades within his national network.

There are three dangers that threaten the church from within, and the authorities need to awaken to the fact that the people should be warned unceasingly against them. As I see them, they are flattery of prominent men in the world, false educational ideas, and sexual impurity.

Joseph F. Smith

2 out of 3 ain’t good.

BYU’s Ed department’s embrace of Goodlad shows they have utterly failed to follow the counsel of leaders, and of their core scriptural beliefs.

Last year (2010) when BYU’s Education Department was under attack from us for being members of John Goodlad’s NNER, which was trying to force BYU to accept the gay agenda into their school, the Provo Daily Herald reported that BYU was dropping its membership with the NNER (National Network for Educational Renewal) for “financial” reasons. However, in that same article, the Herald said, “Far from divorcing themselves from Goodlad, BYU provided the Daily Herald with a summary of Goodlad’s achievements” and went on to praise and adore this prominent national educator.

So here we are one year later and some have wondered if BYU’s Education Department was possibly changing their direction. They have answered with a resounding NO.

This tribute (PDF) in their latest newsletter clearly shows where they stand. My comments are on the right. (I also suggest to BYU’s Ed Dept. that they look at the title tag they have used with Robert Patterson’s photo and correct the (Freudian?) slip where they have named him “John Godland.”)

John Goodlad’s Influence on the BYU–Public School Partnership
By Robert Patterson
 My Comments
Robert Patterson is a lifelong educator and author. He was a former dean of the McKay School of Education at Brigham Young University between 1999 and 2003, during which time he worked closely with John Goodlad. John Goodlad has been working close with BYU’s Ed. Dept. since 1983 when he first set up the Public School Partnership between BYU and 5 surrounding school districts, and in 1986 when BYU’s Ed. Dept. became a founding member of the NNER.
As I participated in the various activities of the BYU–Public School Partnership (BYU–PSP), I experienced an oft-repeated query from fellow participants: “Why do we pay so much attention to the opinions and ideas of John Goodlad?” I want to offer three possible responses. Here comes the official answer as to why BYU’s Ed. Dept. pays to much attention to John Goodlad.
First, I suggest we look at the professional record of this man. His colleagues have publicly acknowledged the extent and value of his work by literally showering him with prestigious awards, including the Horace Mann League Outstanding Friend of Public Education and the John Dewey Society Outstanding Achievement Award in 2009. He has tirelessly done his utmost to address educational issues in a manner to help fellow professionals as well as the larger interested public. Reason 1: he’s a prestigious (prominent) national award winnerHorace Mann: Creator of compulsory education”What the church has been for medieval man, the public school must become for democratic and rational man. God will be replaced by the concept of the public good. The common (public) schools shall create a more far-seeing intelligence and a pure morality than has ever existed among communities of men.” -Mann

John Dewey: Original signatory on the atheistic, socialistic, Humanist Manifesto.

Education is thus a most powerful ally of Humanism, and every American public school is a school of Humanism. What can the theistic Sunday-schools, meeting for an hour once a week, and teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?” -Dewey

Evil, godless, prominent men who have an agenda to destroy faith in God and have awards named after them and Goodlad has received them. That’s reason #1 BYU’s Ed. Dept. follows Goodlad.

The second compelling reason relates to his role in helping to launch and enrich the organization of the Partnership. On invitation from Curtis Van Alfen, the BYU dean of education in 1983, Goodlad spent several months at BYU helping school district and university personnel catch a vision of the benefits of a collaborative relationship. Reason 2: Goodlad did tremendous service for BYU to help them catch a vision of a collaborative relationship.What is Goodlad’s agenda?”The curriculum of the future will be what one might call the humanistic curriculum.” -Goodlad
Goodlad also invited the Partnership to become a member of the National Network for Educational Renewal (NNER). As a result, participants of the BYU–PSP have received outstanding leadership training as well as the opportunity to interact with school or university faculty members from other NNER sites. One result of this interaction has been the replication of the Seattle Associates Program at BYU. The Partnership has used associates as one of the main ways of sharing ideas and promoting a common value position within the BYU–PSP. Reason 3: If you read the titles of some of the NNER conference talks, of which BYU Ed. Dept. professors regularly presented (along with Alpine School District leaders from the PSP) you’ll find intriguing topics such as these:”The Creation of a Wise and Healthy People and a Culture for Sustaining and Renewing  this Populace” (Sounds eerily like the U.N.’s Agenda 21 plan)”Expert Study Panel Groups (GLBT & Community Engagement)” (I don’t think I need to comment on this one)

School-based Mentoring: A Nurturing Approach to Improve the Educational Outcomes of Students At-risk” (This particular session was taught by a BYU prof. and when you read the brief section below, you’ll see their mentoring/nurturing approach is to supplant the parent with a nurturing teacher. Where did that come from? “Most youth still hold the same values of their parents… if we do not alter this pattern, if we don’t resocialize, our system will decay.“- John Goodlad)

And Justice For All: Using Artificial Environments to Create Community and Teach Diversity

The Re-emergence of the Research School: A Model To Meet the Challenges of Education for Democracy

Whatever happened to teachers getting trained in how to teach math, reading, and writing? These courses have NOTHING to do with educating our children and EVERYTHING to do with indoctrinating them into a “social and political Democracy.”

Another significant and valuable application of Goodlad’s leadership is our Center for the Improvement of Teacher Education and Schooling (CITES). By accepting Goodlad’s challenge to experiment with this new organizational structure, we have found ways to include other BYU colleges in the Partnership, to strengthen the in-service provisions offered for school personnel, and to generate ideas through research and program evaluation. Reason 4: The wonderful CITES center where the application of Goodlad’s philosophies are extended to other colleges, and through which PSP school administrators and principals pass in order to be deemed “Goodlad-agenda-ready” for public service. CITES is run by Steve Baugh, Goodlad AED scholar. Baugh is the former Superintendent of Alpine School District where he helped bring constructivist math (ex. Investigations, Connected, and Interactive math) to tens of thousands of children, forever damaging their mathematical abilities, but following Goodlad’s recommendations that a socialistic style constructivist approach be used to help further prepare children for life in a social and political Democracy.CITES also receives hundreds of thousands of public tax dollars each year yet won’t allow for an audit or release of how those tax dollars are spent in spite of requests by legislators.
John Goodlad has encouraged and supported the BYU–PSP in powerful ways. Without the benefits derived from the focus associated with his writings and programs and the example of excellent leadership through skillful mentoring and modeling of ideas and practices, the BYU–PSP would be far less able to speak with pride of the quality of education in our partner districts and in our university teacher preparation programs. We continue to be richly rewarded for celebrating Dr. John I. Goodlad. Quality of education in our partner districts? Is that why UVU has a math remediation *department* for the nearly 70% of incoming students who can’t do simple college algebra?Teacher prep is nothing more than indoctrination prep. There is precious little content knowledge being transmitted to those who obtain a teaching certificate, but loads of philosophical poison from Goodlad’s agenda. We need teachers who actually understand math to teach it.

“As the educational system falls into the hands of the in-power political faction or into the hands of an obscure but tightly knit group of professional social reformers, it is used not to educate but to indoctrinate.” Ezra Taft Benson (An Enemy Hath Done this – pg. 229)

“I feel to warn you that one of the chief means of misleading our youth and destroying the family unit is our educational institutions. There is more than one reason why the Church is advising our youth to attend colleges close to their homes where institutes of religion are available. It gives the parents the opportunity to stay close to their children, and if they become alerted and informed, these parents can help expose the deceptions of men like Sigmund Freud, Charles Darwin, John Dewey, John Keynes and others. There are much worse things today that can happen to a child than not getting a full education. In fact, some of the worst things have happened to our children while attending colleges led by administrators who wink at subversion and amorality. Said Karl G. Maeser, “I would rather have my child exposed to smallpox, typhus fever, cholera or other malignant and deadly diseases than to the degrading influence of a corrupt teacher.” Ezra Taft Benson (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 307.)

John Goodlad is among the “others” mentioned and a disciple of John Dewey.

“There is a spirit working among the Saints to educate their own offspring. If our children will be all we will have for a foundation of glory in eternity, how needful that they be properly trained… There are wolves among us in sheep’s clothing ready to lead astray our little ones… Wolves do not devour old sheep when there are any young ones. I have herded sheep long enough to know that. Look after your children.”- Elder John W. Taylor, (Collected Discourses 2:138.)

The BYU Ed. Dept. magazine also contains an article entitled “Education in a Changing World” (PDF) and the very first section says:

What Is a Mentor?

Who was your mentor? Who could be trusted to answer the important questions you had? Who was there to give you advice? Who served as a role model at important points in your life?
Most successful people have had a mentor at some time in their life, whether in business, sports, the arts, the classroom, or university work.

FiVE Things You Should Know about Mentoring

1. What a Mentor Is and What a Mentor Is Not

A mentor is not:

What a mentor is:

  • a parent
  • a cool peer
  • a babysitter
  • a therapist
  • a disciplinarian
  • a parole officer
  • a nag
  • a savior
  • an ATM
  • a wise and trusted friend
  • a link to another generation
  • a confiant
  • a tutor
  • an advisor
  • a visionary “seer” (been there, done that)
  • a cheerleader
  • a coach
  • a listener
  • an advocate
  • a sounding board
  • a guide
  • a role model
  • a partner
  • a motivator


The greatest mentor I have had in my life is my father. I wonder how the department integrates the Proclamation on the Family into their philosophies? This article further shows the embrace of Goodlad’s philosophy as he believes:

Public education has served as a check on the power of parents, and this is another powerful reason for maintaining it.”- John Goodlad, Developing Democratic Character in the Young, pg. 165

One of Goodlad’s core 4 dimensions of teaching is that teachers become the nurturers of students. Here’s a few Goodlad quotes (references at link) for you.

[schools] should liberate students from the ways of thinking imposed by religions and other traditions of thought.”

“…educators must resist the quest for certainty. If there were certainty there would be no scientific advancement. So it is with morals and patriotism.”

“It is my expectation that Teacher Education for Democracy and Social Justice will become a rich resource for continuing this multi-layered conversation-from democratic belief to democratic action-that is the hallmark of educational renewal.”

“…the state we should strive for is better described in Deweyan terms as a social democracy.

I ask, do you believe the philosophies of John Goodlad will help build up Zion? I say they will not. They will tear it down and destroy it. They will indoctrinate in false philosophies and destroy faith in God. Has the BYU Ed. Dept. fallen into this cunning plan?

2 Nephi 9

28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.

29 But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.

What is that counsel we are to hearken to?

We have not been using the Book of Mormon as we should. Our homes are not as strong unless we are using it to bring our children to Christ.Our families may be corrupted by worldly trends and teachings unless we know how to use the book to expose and combat the falsehoods in socialism, organic evolution, rationalism, humanism, and so forth… And our nation will continue to degenerate unless we read and heed the words of the God of this land, Jesus Christ, and quit building up and upholding the secret combinations which the Book of Mormon tells us proved the downfall of both previous American civilizations. (A Witness and a Warning, p. 6.)

Those who fail to see the dangers of an alliance with John Goodlad reject the message of the Book of Mormon and are literally walking in darkness at noon-day as they become accomplices in an effort to destroy the morality and agency of man.

David O. McKay, a staunch fighter against humanism and socialism, must be weeping in heaven that his name is attached to this department.

17 Responses to “BYU Ed Dept Endorses Korihor Again”

  • Juleen Jackson:

    what can we do to put pressure on BYU Ed program to stop this infatuation/teaching of Goodlad doctrine?  Juleen J.

  • I believe that the only way to end this nonsense is to get the partnership school districts to stop financially supporting CITES and to withdraw from the Public School Partnership at BYU. We need school board members to become alert to the fact that the PSP provides NO educational benefits to their district. Teachers need to be masters of their area of content knowledge and have efficient ways to transmit that knowledge to the next generation. That will never happen under a Goodlad inspired agenda.

  • Jennrc3:

    Should we write to the school board?  It doesn’t seem most of them are listening.

  • Tim Osborn:

    You have to demand that your Boards of Ed drop out of the BYU-PSP.  You have to hit them hard with their false statements of  needing the parents help with the education of their children.  Let them know the Boards of Ed are elected to aid the PARENTS in THEIR education of THEIR children.  That the Superintendents are hired by the Boards to aid THEM in the education of the children, not the other way around.

    Demand, in public, that the Boards look at the very core of the PSP and be responsible to it.  Not some fluff that the PSP likes to show off.  If it is a real Public School Partnership, which it isn’t, then the Public has a right to know of the core values and workings.  The workings include the finances and curriculum that the teachers, that you hire through your election of School Board Officers, learn and trickle down to your children.

    Demand that the Boards learn that, again, THEY ARE HIRED TO ASSIST YOU! not the other way around.

    In board meetings at the 5 different school boards, read, out loud to the board members, the direct quotes from the PSP and Dr. Goodlad.  Read out loud their policies that are different.  Tell them, out loud, that they are elected to, again, assist you in education of your children.

    Remember that the workings of evil work in darkness.  To bring this into the light if day will work to destroy those workings. 

    One of the things that the Evil One does is to be very organized.  Become very organized in your own towns and even school boundaries.  Become very vocal.  Have good reasoning skills, and don’t be afraid to pull you child from one class to put them into another whose teacher doesn’t adhere to the poisoned teachings.  No teacher likes to have a child moved because the parent disagrees with him or her.  It stikes at their very core.  They take it very personally.  Don’t be afraid to cause a stir because of the false teachings that you see.

    Keep up the great work!

    Tim Osborn

  • Ira Thurby-Wright:

    First, I agree that we ought to expose the progressive secularist bent of men like John Goodlad. When someone like John Dewey is a signatory on humanist or socialist manifests, it is a sure sign of his political leanings and an immediate call to review how those leanings affect his overall teachings.

    However, we must live in this world, even if we don’t partake of its perversions. I can enjoy Tschaikovsky’s 1812 Overture in spite of the conduct of his personal life or Ozzie Ozborne’s (later) tunes in spite of his youthful associations with “Black Sabbath” because I have the power of discernment and free agency in life’s “smorgasbord”. The point being that I can take the pieces with their inherent value without embracing the ideology or conduct of the author.

    That being said, we should monitor carefully, particularly in these days of heated partisan contention, how much of said politic and agenda enter one’s craft. I knew Bob Patterson (he passed away last year) when he was the dean of a different College – as a matter of fact I received rather profound spiritual counsel at his hands – and knowing him, cannot fathom his endorsement of a secularist, though find it acceptable if he used some portion of the teachings of someone in the area of educational specialty that were value rich but void of controversy.

    Our ability to sift the wheat from the tares is not about judging people, it’s about discerning good from evil, and all of G_d’s children are good (G_d doesn’t make “crap”), even if some of their works are evil (or “crappy”). I’ll have to investigate further whether a piece meal utilization of Goodlad’s theories has, by creep, become a wholesale acceptance of his complete ideology at BYU, but we would be wise not to find ourselves wholesale rejecting something by the same faulty reasoning. My main concern with College of Education graduates is a profound avoidance of solid math pedagogy.

    Oak, bless you for your efforts to watch out for the kids!

  • Rick:

    I assume BYU’s president and the Board of Directors (which I believe is the apostles), have been made aware of this situation on multiple occasions.  If so, does anybody know what their response was?

  • Susie:

    Oak, thank you so much for posting this. My biggest concern is that an LDS teachers college is pushing these dangerous philosophies into the next generation of teachers who play a large role in our children’s upbringing and belief systems. If you notice in this newsletter compared with the ones in the past, there is less and less mingling with LDS beliefs and more and more praising the philosophies of the worldly humanist philosophers. There has always been a mingling at MSE, which is bad enough to confuse the minds of young college students, but reading this newsletter, I couldn’t even sense that it was coming from a Christian/LDS University at all. For Heaven’s sake, they took parents and “a savior” off the list as mentors, instead encouraging our children to go to those who would only cheer them on instead of correcting or steering them towards righteousness in a loving way. This is because in the minds of humanists and moral relativists, there is no right or wrong. We as parents need to stand up to this in every way, in every place, if we are to raise children who are strong leaders in the humanist/religious war we are fighting in this generation.

    A friend brought up to me this morning something about Bill Ayers, a friend of Goodlad and the NNER and a huge part of Goodlad’s and MSE’s education philosophies. This man was banned from entering Canada because of his terrorist actions, though we allow our superintendents and MSE’s leaders to be mentored by his Democracy-Humanist agenda because he carries clout in the Progressive Education elitist world. Why is he and Bernadine Dohrs a part of the flotilla set to happen against Israel in the next few months? What does this have to with his role as an educator? It’s all about the fight for religion. As Israel goes, so does the United States. As the Jews are persecuted, so follows the Christians, the LDS, and all religions. While we watch world news about Ayers and his dispicable actions in this religious war, let us keep in mind that he and his cohorts, including Goodlad and anyone who supports them, are fighting this war within the walls of our educational institutions and if we don’t do something about it, we are guilty of not standing up when our children and our God need us the most.

  • Susie:

    Yes they are aware and have been given all this information and more from us and others. They thanked us but we weren’t expecting a response from them. We feel that this is all we can do besides warn parents.

    The LDS Brethren and other Christian leaders have been warning parents about the war on religion and to be in charge of our children’s education for years, especially lately. Boyd K. Packer and Ezra Taft Benson among others have warned that BYU has a long way to go before it is the Lord’s University. Read ‘Snow White Birds’ by Pres. Packer, and many of Benson’s writings about education. BYU has many wonderful things going on, among the best in the world, but unfortunately, evil has crept into this institution like every other institution of higher learning and we can’t close our eyes to it thinking ‘All is Well’. These are the last days and even the elect will be deceived. Brigham Young was adament against mixing the doctrine of Christ with the philosophies of evil, but that door was unfortunately opened years ago and the seeds were planted. We’re seeing them fully ripe with iniquity now. Unfortunately, many of those leaders at MSE are swept up in the dangers mentioned below.

    Joseph F. Smith warned us that in the last days 3 things will threaten the church from within: the flattery of prominent men of the world, false educational ideas, and sexual immorality. Notice he doesn’t say ‘in the world’, he says ‘in the church’. To me, this definitely can and does include MSE and other colleges at BYU. We see all three going on, especially the first two within MSE. Add the NNER trying to push the gay agenda onto BYU through their membership, and you’ve added the third. Ezra Taft Benson gives a talk about these threats in a Conference address years ago, and as with so many other words of council, they are more apparent now than they were then.

  • ker:

    so does our tithing money support them?

  • Some tithing money probably does subsidize operations at BYU. This is not a reason to quit paying. :) Stay faithful. What is known is that public tax dollars are going to CITES and they aren’t transparent with how that is spent according to Senator Margaret Dayton.

  • Jennrc3:

    Be careful.  You can’t be in Babylon and Zion at the same time.  If I had a cockroach in my soup, I would discard the whole thing; I would just drink around it.  It is difficult to allow our schools to use curriculum from organized people who have evil intentions for our country, even if they are children of God.  Loving the sinner doesn’t mean embracing their materials.  There is too much damage that can and has been done, because most people don’t see the small manipulative ways indoctrination occurs.  I must respectfully disagree with your Ozzy comment.  None of his music is worth listening to, and I used to think he was fine when I was a teen before I understood how music effects the soul.  I avoided that kind of music for a large period of time (when I was in college), and when I came back home I attended his concert.  All I can say is the negative spirit that was there told me that it was not good…the beat, the words, and the feeling.  These types of singers try to put in a few messages that are good, so people will justify listening to their addictive, depressing and mind changing music.  It works really well.  The same has happened in education.  No, God doesn’t make crap, but people can ruin the gift of life God gave them by having worldly desires and making evil choices.  Or people can choose to fight for good even in adversity and strive for integrity, honesty and all things that are good.  We are given the gift to choose, and we have accountablity for whatever we choose.  While Goodlad is choosing evil designs, we should not support him at all.

  • Susie:

    Although many good things are happening at BYU, how is it possible that humanism, socialism, the praise of worldly philosophers and other evils came into an LDS university and are so prevalent in some departments? Why aren’t the ‘powers that be’ doing something about it? Don’t they see it? I receive these questions all the time. Though I don’t know for sure, here is an answer that makes a lot of sense to me:

    In Matthew 13:24 Christ says the kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field. (Brigham Young started this university based on gospel principles.)

    Matthew 13: 25 But while men slept (that’s us folks), his enemy (atheists, humanists, worldly philosophers) came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. (Goodlad came in over 25 years ago, established the NNER, CITES, the Public School Partnership, his false educational doctrine sweetened with sugary-sweet wording, and then went on his way after setting up leaders who could maintain these philosophies of men mingled with scripture.)

    But when the wheat started coming up, so did the tares. The servants came and told the man, didn’t you plant just wheat in the field? Where are the tares coming from? Can’t we go in and take them all out? (Now, alongside the good, we see how evil is also sprouting up in our schools and at MSE. Well-meaning parents say, “This is supposed to be a university only based in gospel principles. Can’t we just fire everyone who doesn’t teach things that we believe are true?)

    In verses 29-30, (the leaders of the church) said “Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest.

    When the harvest comes (the 2nd Coming) the Lord will then take care of the tares first (not pretty), and then gather the wheat into His barn (those who stay faithful to real truth will be rewarded in His kingdom).

    I believe it is important for us to use the Holy Ghost along with the scriptures to decipher good from evil, right from wrong, and continue to decipher which is wheat and which are tares, even at BYU,  because in the last days, even the very elect will be deceived.

  • Anonymous:

    All the things on the list of a tutor are what a parent is for their children, yet our children are taught not to look to their parents for this? And a tutor is to be a confiant, encouraging children to not confide in their parents? This is anti-Elijah, turning the hearts of the children away from their fathers.

  • Peter Cannon:

    Thank you, Oak, for your faithful persistence in this cause. I posted a link to this page on my political facebook page. I will watch for these kinds of problems in the Davis School District from my position on the School Board.

  • Marrue K. Simmons:

    Oak Norton,  I hope that you have made the effort to have a conference with Pres. Samuelson, and the heads of the BYU Ed. Dept.  You are so knowledgable compared to most of us, it needs to be you with our support.  How have they responded?  Do they really believe all this Goodlad  social garbage?  How can we as grandparents help?  MarRue K. Simmons,  Provo School District.  Who, What and how?

  • We haven’t sat down with Pres. Samuelson, but there has been some contact with people. At this point I have little hope the Ed department will reform itself. They mostly love Goodlad. Pray that they will change their ways.

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